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January 04, 2008

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Lafayette C. Curtis

There's also a theory that William decided to give battle because he was running short on supplies and he had to use the huge army he had put together with so much effort before it began to disintegrate because of hunger and lack of pay. Unfortunately, I don't remember where I first heard this theory--but at least I can refer you to another place that provides a free copy of Gillingham's article on good old William as well as two others, one on Richard I (Lionheart) and the other on William Marshall: http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/articles/gillingham.htm

Gary Smailes

I too have heard this theory but think that it can be rejected. Medieval campaigning in the mid 11th century was very distinct to it's time. William's army would not have had used a supply system that is familiar to later mediaeval armies. When on campaign William's men would have been expected to survive wholly on foraging. In the English invasion (and other actions in Northern France) William's first action was to set up a fortified stronghold. He then sent his men out to ravage the surrounding country side. This had two aims. Firstly to cause havoc and force Harold's hand, but the second was to find supplies. On using this tactic William knew Harold had no choice to manoeuvre his army to a position that would stop William from foraging. William's past experience suggests that Harold may well have been open to negotiation at this point. However, my argument is that Harold had every intention of engaging William from the moment he moved his army south. I suspect that Harold knew that a pitch battle was risky but was prepared to take the gamble to rid himself of William once and for all.

Thanks for the link to article - I have updated my post.

Gary

Titus

Re: Gillingham's article on Richard I, the article is titled "Richard I and the Science of War in the Middle Ages," and it is just as good, if not better, than "William the Bastard at War." A key point that Gillingham elludes to, which doesn't get much attention from medievalists, is the central role intelligence had in the medieval way of war.

Titus

Re: Gillingham's article on Richard I, the article is titled "Richard I and the Science of War in the Middle Ages," and it is just as good, if not better, than "William the Bastard at War." A key point that Gillingham elludes to, which doesn't get much attention from medievalists, is the central role intelligence had in the medieval way of war.

Gary Smailes

Thanks for the pointer to the article.

Intelligence was a vital part to all medieval warfare. It is believed that both William and Harold were fully aware of both the composition and movement of each others army. Much is made in the contemporary accounts of the Battle of Hastings of the manner in which William either listened to or ignored intelligence reports. Little is known of just how aware Harold was of Williams plans.

Titus

If you accept that medieval warfare consisted of primarily of quick ambushes and equally quick retreats, then it's hard to imagine a warfare style more dependent on intelligence.

BTW, doesn't the Bayeux Tapestry depict a scene in which a scout reports to William the position of Harold's army?

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